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Collectors of old cards: question about condition

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Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby collingwood » 01 Oct 2012, 15:04

hi all, but especially collectors of older cards.

I'm seeking your opinion about how you determine what is more important about cards when it comes to facets of their condition.

Usually an older card is graded based on a number of factors: corners; creases, bends or folds, surface wear or marks, 'foxing' (that is, staining with age) and centering. We all make a judgment about what makes a card 'better' or 'worse' than another, but I am interested to hear what your thoughts are on what feature is more or less important than another.

I have recently upgraded a rare card but the newer card also has its faults, and I am trying to work out which one I should keep - at the moment it's both of them! One card has some surface wear and is 'grubby' but it has no creases. The other is a much cleaner card but has a single crease through it...
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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby wockrog » 01 Oct 2012, 17:29

I would go with the one with the surface wear theres a lady who can do touch ups on them, I have supplied a link to her last job, looked like new when she was done.
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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby collingwood » 01 Oct 2012, 17:30

LOL...
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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby CardCruiser » 03 Oct 2012, 00:03

Don't think this is much help.But I'd hold onto both of them,until another upgrade opportunity comes.
Hasn't done me any harm. Then,bang! 2 trades on that card..
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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby collingwood » 03 Oct 2012, 10:30

Yes, that's helpful thanks. When in doubt, keep 'em both. The cleaner cards and the ones with better corners look better than those with worn edges, even if there are creases in them. But the creased ones are theoretically in worse condition and may be less valuable.. It does raise that issue about card grading and I think the Australian market has a need for this (although it's got to be said that there is nowhere near the demand for this service here than in the States, and nowhere near the number of valuable cards that justify the expense of formal grading).
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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby CardCruiser » 07 Oct 2012, 22:49

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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby www.grandoldflag.net » 08 Oct 2012, 23:07

Hi Collingwood - I've struggled with this one many times before.
My golden rule is that creases are the worst - I can handle scuffs, surface grubbiness etc but I always steer clear of creases.
Having said that, I have two Chadwick Sub. Premiums that I can't part with for the same reason as you so maybe I'm not the one to give advice.........
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Re: Collectors of old cards: question about condition

Postby Swampfox » 15 Oct 2012, 17:58

Interesting subject and open to interpretation

Personally i am quite content to buy a filler and some i have recieved are really in bad condition but at least i have the card

I really hate cards that have pen marks , or answering the quiz on the card backs or some idiot decided frank adams has a black moustache to go with his red hair

I even prefer a card without a players signature if it isnt supposed to be there

I would never expect to find a MINT 1963 Scanlens for example and funningly enough there were not that many in 1963 either

I am not sure if our market is big enough to start using the grading system they have in the USA

I like to show it then sell it which requires the buyer to be present such as Fairs etc

Photos can only tell you so much as its really hard to interpret how fussy the potential buyer actually is
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